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A Tribute to Uncle Tom: An Uncommon Strength
What makes someone truly strong? In a world that equates strength with wealth, appearance, or status, this episode explores a radically different perspective rooted in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
The conversation begins with Joel sharing a deeply personal tribute to his Uncle Tom, who passed away from cancer. Through this lens, we examine what constitutes genuine strength—not just physical prowess, but spiritual fortitude that stands firm when everything seems to be falling apart.
"Strengths are not strengths unless they're founded upon Christ," Morgan observes, highlighting how our natural abilities only become true strengths when directed toward divine purposes. We delve into the transformative process described in Ether, where the Lord shows us our weaknesses specifically so He can make them strong. Joel vulnerably shares how his tendency toward bluntness became a powerful tool for boldly sharing testimony when redirected through Christ.
Looking at Captain Moroni's example, we challenge the notion that strength means going on the offensive. Though capable in battle, Moroni consistently sought peace first, demonstrating that sometimes the greatest strength lies in restraint. Similarly, Alma and Amulek's experience of maintaining faith while witnessing terrible suffering without divine intervention showcases a deeper strength than miraculous deliverance.
Perhaps most compelling is our discussion of "uncommon strengths" that rarely make headlines but shake "the very powers of hell"—the courage to admit when we're wrong, the discipline to keep commitments to ourselves, the ability to say "no" when necessary, and the bravery to repent despite fear and pride.
Whether you're questioning what it means to be spiritually strong or seeking to develop greater resilience in your discipleship, this conversation offers practical insights for allowing Christ to transform your natural abilities into spiritual power. Join us as we explore how to become more than just admirers of Christ, but true followers whose strengths are founded upon Him.
Welcome to Hear Him. Heal you with Morgan and Joel. This podcast is for those that are imperfect, rough around the edges, but are still wanting to come unto Christ. Join us to get out of the mental mire by meeting an emotion and leave bad behind. This is where we hear him to be healed.
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Speaker 1:Hey, on a positive note, I'm actually I haven't drank an energy drink in three days, which that is very impressive.
Speaker 2:In sales. That is super impressive.
Speaker 1:It's mainly because I don't have a car right now, because my brother decided to wreck it and it's getting fixed, and so I can't drive to the gas station before work because I have to walk the mile to work. That is unfortunate, hey, but here we are getting our steps in.
Speaker 2:We survived some way somehow. Well, okay, kind of getting into what we want to talk about today, though this topic today is a little more personal to me. This topic is about my Uncle Tom and about strength and recently. My Uncle Tom passed last week on Sunday and luckily I had the privilege of having a conversation with him before he passed away from cancer, and in this one-on-one conversation it was really quick and brief, but I just told him as, uncle Tom, as a little kid, you were one of my heroes. You were such a strong man and literally he was a state champion wrestler. He went to nationals in college and wrestled and then on his mission he even wrestled a bear. Crazy story Trained bear Wasn't like just a wild bear out in the middle of nowhere, right, it was in a mall.
Speaker 2:I was about to say Anyways, he wrestled the bear, bear didn't take him down, he didn't take the bear down. So it was a draw technically no-transcript.
Speaker 1:When you told me the story, I was thinking about this as well as like, what is like? What considers us a strong person, and that was something that I thought about a lot, since you were talking about your uncle, tom, and I did realize there's a lot of cultural things, especially in the US and America, that I feel like are very pervasive, that people think are strong, they're a strong person because of this, and I think a lot of times it comes down to like they think they're strong because they're successful or they're wealthy or they're good looking, and those are some of the like, I would say like some of the pervasive ones that, like I, I am this strong person, listen to me when sometimes those are the exact opposite peoples we should, people we should listen to, right, um? And then there's others that are also like, rely on being smart or funny or or, like you know, like you, we always meet that person that's too cool for school and they think they're a strong person, right?
Speaker 2:you know what I mean and you're like, don't name drop him, don't name drop.
Speaker 1:But I'm just like I'm just like dude, like be it, be real, like you don't have to, like put on this facade right, and so Just be yourself. And at the end of the day, it made me think like what truly is being strong? Look like you know. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, like I said. So that was a real thought-provoking conversation I had with my Uncle, tom, and I started thinking what are some of my other strengths? Because physically I've always been a rather strong person right, I was competitive in sports and in lifting for a while and I really enjoyed that. But recently I've wanted to work on other strengths, things that can benefit other people, especially because of my patriarchal blessing.
Speaker 2:It talks a lot about using my God-given strengths, both physically and spiritually, to support and protect others, and so I thought about that a lot, about the, you know, the strength to protect. So, and I think, not just physically but thinking about that in a sense of spiritually, how do I protect myself and others spiritually? How do I use my testimony and my knowledge to help my friends and family members who may be struggling, or to help kind of protect them from some of these pervasive thoughts and these really just I feel like so often you see so much anti today and so many people deconstructing Mormonism and it's like so how can I share things with people ahead of time that help protect them from these false narratives about the church?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, I think, going along those lines, like, not only should we use strengths to protect others, I really think what we all have, these great attributes, these positive attributes that can be used to help people, I also think there's a lot of attributes that, if we don't have that intention, can also be very damaging to people, right? Like just think about someone who is funny or outspoken. They could stand up for someone or they could degrade someone. Right? And I realized, like strengths are not strengths unless they're founded upon Christ. As we base our lives upon Christ, he shows us our strengths and molds our strengths to help others.
Speaker 1:And that was something I had to—I realized that, like, someone can be wealthy but if they don't have the right intention, they could use that wealth for their own means, not for God's means. Or you could do this with all other things. Like someone who is smart could help people, could people understand certain concepts better? Or someone who is outspoken could have a really beautiful testimony and have a unique way of sharing it. Right, and I just think, as we think about our strengths, we have to make sure we tie it back to the source of all strength.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm actually going to rephrase what you said. You said he shows us our strengths as we go to Christ. Actually, I think first he shows us our weakness, like he says in Ether right, and then he says so he can make our weakness strong. Things to us right. And I think about that One thing I everyone who knows me right, my whole life I've been very vocal and I'm really quick to speak say things, and sometimes I don't always say the nicest things, sometimes I don't always say the right thing, right, and so I had to recognize Never, never, never has happened in the history of our friendship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never said anything, that was just kind of brazen and just uncalled for right.
Speaker 2:But I learned that that was a weakness and that I kind of realized that I needed to work on that.
Speaker 2:And I'm still working on it Morgan knows I'm still working on it but I learned that I could take that weakness of being sometimes super outspoken and sometimes very blunt and take that and say, okay, what if I put that in terms of a testimony, though, and I get up on the stand and I very bluntly and very confidently declare what I know to be truth, you know, or what I believe to be truth right, and share my testimony with that kind of strength, right and confidence in my words.
Speaker 2:And so that was kind of one of the ways I've learned how to take that thing. That was a weakness where I would say things that weren't called for or say things just too forthright, and use that to share my testimony of the gospel more bluntly and just more directly and not be ashamed and not think, oh, what's this person going to think if I share my testimony? They don't think I'm a weirdo. I don't care, I'm going to share you my testimony or share with you my testimony of Christ. So I think that was how I learned to kind of shape that weakness into a strength, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I 100% agree. There's also another concept and maybe this goes against like and I don't know, I'll just say it I remember. So I have a friend named Treko. Treko has actually been someone I've looked up to. We did door to door together. He's a few years older than me, but Treko has this amazing strength and, yeah, you've met Treko and he is very good at educating himself and like absorbing knowledge from books and all these things.
Speaker 1:I want to be more like him in that regard, because I love listening to things, but trying to read and all that stuff, I just don't feel like I have the time right.
Speaker 1:But anyways, he told me about this concept that sometimes we try to only focus on making our weaknesses strong, and he said, yeah, that's an honorable pursuit, but sometimes, if we focus on making our strengths stronger, it's kind of like the tide raises all ships, right, because if we continue to approach life from all the strengths we have, it actually will help us go further than just only focusing on the negative things of our lives, and I think that is another approach that God takes with us.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I am overly aware of my weaknesses and I don't need someone, or even the Spirit, to be like, hey, you suck at this, you need to work on this. I'm like, yeah, I already know, okay, but some of the most spiritual and uplifting moments I've ever had has been when people have pointed out the strengths I already have and asked me to use those strengths in a certain way. And I think that's another example of a strong person, someone who knows their strengths and caters to those strengths to help others. And I think we will overcome our weaknesses as we rely more on our strengths that God has given us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something that I also was thinking about was I used to feel like when we were under attack right in our faith, that it was my like personal responsibility to go out there and like counterattack right, or just to get ahead of the curve right and to be the first one to initiate and to confront people about things, whether that was their beliefs politically in the gospel or whether that was just interpretation of the gospel or whether that was people who weren't of our faith. I'm like I need to get ahead of the curve here and just be the first one, instead of realizing like, if you follow the example of Captain Moroni, right, he was such a live and let live person we always think of him as some like some mighty warrior who was just going out there and just kicking butt you know everyone. But it's not like he wanted to do that. He wanted peace.
Speaker 2:Multiple times he wanted peace, and when it was refused that's when he got the title of liberty he said we're going to defend, we're not going to be on the offense here, we're going to be on the defense and we're going to defend our beliefs and our country and our people. And so realizing that to a degree, we are going to be reactionary. Sometimes we try to be peacekeepers and peacemakers and to be the peaceable followers of Christ and I think that's what we've heard several great talks and conference in the last few years about being peacemakers, right, and I think sometimes we get so overzealous and wanting to protect our beliefs that we kind of maybe sometimes lash out I have right on other people's beliefs and kind of thrown their beliefs and degraded their theology, trying to protect my own instead of realizing I can defend my own best when I declare my testimony. So trying to learn how to balance that has been a way to learn a new strength. I feel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, honestly, like Captain Moroni, like you said, he's like you know, if they were to make a superhero just from the Book of Mormon, he would be like the, he'd be the one you'd pick Right. Like he is like Superman, but in God form.
Speaker 2:Right, still waiting for the Book of Mormon comics.
Speaker 1:So, dude, maybe that should be our next project.
Speaker 2:I can't draw.
Speaker 1:No, we just find someone who can draw, we write the content I can't draw.
Speaker 2:No, we just find someone who can draw.
Speaker 1:We write the content. It's already written. It's. It's called the book of the well you can't throw like verses into comic no one.
Speaker 2:I don't want to read like 10 paragraphs has been written.
Speaker 1:All right, the narrative's there okay, okay, but anyways, going back to this, but you know, I was thinking about this, um, if I had to pick, like a, like a scripture to base my life off of, or what I want people to say about me, or what's written on my headstone at the end of my life, it's, it's that scripture that, like, if all men had been and were and would ever and ever would be like unto Moroni, behold, the very powers of hell would be shaken forever.
Speaker 1:I think that's the type of strength I want to have, one that actually makes Satan shake in his boots, you know, because he's like, hey, morgan's coming to town, you know, or Joel's coming to town. And I think, like, I think sometimes we get in this attitude of like, the only way I can be strong in the church is I have to be nice. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I think we should be nice to everyone, but I also think we should be stalwart and unmovable in our beliefs as well, and not put up with sin, not put up with waywardness. And I'm not saying, like, judge people. But I think in our own lives and maybe it's because, like, there have been moments in my life where I felt like I haven't been those things right and I'm like I want more than anything to not be shaken by hell, but I want to shake hell itself, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know of a verse or somewhere in the scriptures where it says we need to be tolerant or have tolerance right, but I know there's quite a bit about being charitable and having the pure love of Christ right, and I think that's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 2:It's not easy to develop that strength of charity and that's something that comes with a lot of prayer and fasting, I think, and a lot of effort on our part, because charity, when it's described, it's not a good feeling of happiness and niceness towards others.
Speaker 2:No, it's kindness, it's long suffering, it's patience, it's humility, it's, you know, genuinely being invested in people and wanting what's best for them and so learning how to, and sometimes, like you said, it can feel that you know you're not all. We need to be more than just try to be nice, and that's where I think we need to, like you said, we'd be polite, we'd be civil, but we'd be strong in our position, right, and we don't budge, we don't move. We invite people to come to our side and to come and accept the gospel of Jesus Christ and to allow Christ to change them, but we'd be infirm and unmovable like the prophet Jacob was. That was someone who, when confronted with false doctrine. I think his own words was that he was unshaken or unshakable essentially, and so that's how we need to be, and I think charity helps us to build that up and we can genuinely have love for everybody and want what's best for them in a Christlike way.
Speaker 2:Then it's going to be less of an issue about being nice versus defending your beliefs.
Speaker 1:Do you remember the General Conference talk about Christlike poise. Do you remember that talk at all? He goes through all these sporting teams, right? Or all these athletes, and he talks about how sometimes sporting events can bring the worst out in people and eventually all those athletes usually peter out or they end up losing the game because they lost their composure right. And sometimes I think that's what it means to be strong in.
Speaker 1:The gospel is we don't lose our composure because we have Christ-like composure or we're poised right.
Speaker 1:And I think there's a lot of ways we can lose our composure or lose our strength, in other terms, or lose the battle or give way to temptation, right. And I think some. I think like some of those instances where I lose my composure in the gospel is like when I've had a really tough day and just like life got to me. Or you know, I like, for example, right now, like I'm working in cells and this month isn't going great, just I've done a ton of demos, I thought they're really good, but it just hasn't broken my way and sometimes that really gets at me. I feel like a failure, I feel like a disappointment, and even those things ruin my composure. And I think part of maintaining strength and being strong in the gospel is one, knowing what attacks your composure in Christ and that commitment, but then second, also learning to be resilient in the face of that adversity as well, and I think those two things are what really make someone strong in the gospel. That reminds me of a story.
Speaker 2:No, no, that actually is something I was thinking about as we were studying for this episode. I thought about the story of Alma and Amulek, as they were imprisoned right after teaching and how they were forced to watch awful, horrendous things. And they were imprisoned right after teaching and how they were forced to watch awful, horrendous things and they were mocked, not just themselves, but these wicked men mocked their religion, those things which were most sacred to them. And that would have been I'm not gonna lie, that might've been a moment where someone not as strong as them, like me, might've cried out in anger to the Lord, or maybe even had some doubt and maybe a little bit of frustration. Is it really, Is this really your promised blessing, that these innocent women and children are getting burned alive, along with the records and the scriptures, right, and all these things are just being made a mockery?
Speaker 1:And he could have said he could have been there and been like why aren't you saving these people? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Why couldn't he be like when Nephi and Lehi and I'm talking about the sons of Helaman- who was the son of. Helaman, who was the son of Alma, who was the son of Alma right now, Anyways.
Speaker 1:so it's kind of funny Lots of Almas, lots of Helamans, lots of Nephis, lots of Lehi.
Speaker 2:So anyways, the younger, nephi and Lehi, right when they were in prison. What happened? The walls fell down, everything shook and collapsed and they walked out of there, like you know, when it's like the building in the background is exploding and they're just walking out slowly, unflinching, didn't even look back as the building's just falling down around them, but in their moment it's like wow. I used to look at them like wow, that's so strong. You know, they were so powerful in their faith that the whole building collapsed and they walked out of there unscathed. And I didn't realize. The greater strength was for Alma and Amulek to stay their hands and to have faith that Heavenly Father was going to take care of those souls, and have faith that this was for a divine purpose, one they couldn't explain, one that I can't explain.
Speaker 1:It's so easy to have faith when everything's going your way right. It's so much harder to maintain faith and hope in Christ when nothing's going your way and like that's when, like I think of those stories, like like Job, like dude, like I said, I would have lost my composure there. I probably would have had a bout of rebelliousness.
Speaker 2:Might've crashed out.
Speaker 1:You know it's like, or like you think of, like Alma the older and Alma the Younger, who had to face these big life-changing moments to become the great man. They were right, because at first things didn't go their way, they were completely against God. Right Also, just?
Speaker 2:think about this. As soon as Alma the Elder started following God and his people fled, what happened? They got captured and were taken into captivity and in bondage. As soon as they started following God and got baptized they leave a little bit later and then it's like boom, instant captivity and just trial and struggle. And they had the strength to say we are going to rely on God. And God did strengthen them. And so there's so many times where, like you said, when things are going hunky-dory and great, we think that's when we're strong. But we find out our strength when it's tested and when we have to actually put forth effort.
Speaker 1:And I think it's in those moments where we actually find uncommon strengths, right Out of curiosity. What are? I just want to know, because I have a few off the top of my head, but I want to. I'm going to put you on the spot. Have you ever looked at some of the friends around you and some of the people in your life and you're like that is a strength that I don't think many people realize or recognize, but I wish I had. What would be some of those uncommon strengths that you would list off?
Speaker 2:The strength to say I was wrong or I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I think that is such a huge strength right For someone to say I was wrong such a hard one.
Speaker 2:Right for someone to say I was wrong like I, especially after they've come out strong in a position and then they recognize the error of their way. It comes to a point where you can either double down on your false belief right. Or you can try to find it in yourself to be humble and to admit you were wrong. And that's something I think that's the hardest one, for most people is to realize that I'm the problem or that I messed up and it's not. And I think that's really it. That kind of hits at our core in our nature. We don't like to be wrong, we don't like to be embarrassed, we don't like to be made fun of those things, right. So it's like naturally we try to play defense and try to push the blame somewhere else, not on us, and I think that's one thing that's been really hard for me a lot of times is to go up to someone and say, hey, I am so sorry, I was wrong, that was on me.
Speaker 1:I would even add to that one the ability to say no, you know, like we are so preconditioned to always say yes to everything, to overburden ourselves or to cross our own boundaries. Right, and I can think about multiple instances where I probably would have been happier. I probably would have gotten more done and be more productive. I would have just said no, you know, and for some reason the people pleaser comes out of me in those instances and I always want to say yes. I always want to be in the thick of it. I don't want FOMO. Obviously now, later in my life, I'm starting to hold to that a little bit more. But dude, my younger 20s were, like I don't know, just wrought with that Me always saying yes and being miserable.
Speaker 2:Oh, too many times. No, that's a great point that I don't think people realize is a strength to be able to say I'm going to stick to this, because for me it's like I tell myself I'm going to stick to a schedule. I'm going to stick to a schedule, I'm going to be in bed asleep 1030 every night this week and I'm going to wake up every morning at 630.
Speaker 1:And then a cute girl's like Joel, you want to go swing dancing. And Joel's like I'm there.
Speaker 2:Every time, right Every time.
Speaker 2:Every time, and so I think that kind of goes on right along with the strength of discipline and self-commitment, right, keeping commitments to yourself is such a strength that I don't think a lot of people have, because I remember I've done sales as well, right, and I remember in one meeting they talked about how the reason why some of us struggle with confidence Because he's like you don't even keep your own word to yourself. He's like how many of you guys made your bed this morning after you've promised probably 50 times in your life after watching some video that video about make your bed in the morning, right, he goes. You're like I'm going to make my bed every morning for the rest of my life he goes. How many of you guys still do that? He goes. Or how many of you guys say, oh, I'm going to work out every day and for at least 30 minutes a day.
Speaker 2:How many of you guys are still doing that? You started that last New Year's, right. And he's like you don't even keep your word to yourself. Going to. Everyone can see that lack of confidence. You're not going to have confidence to tell someone this product is going to work for them or that this is actually going to be something they'll enjoy, and so realizing that having that skill of self-commitment and committing to yourself to do stuff and to keep your own word will boost your confidence in everything that you do, yeah.
Speaker 1:Another one I think that I admire in people and I see this frequently and I've experienced it myself is the courage to repent.
Speaker 1:That one that one's think that I admire in people and I see this frequently and I've experienced it myself is the courage to repent that one's hard, because I feel like no one ever masters it and some people do.
Speaker 1:Don't get me wrong, but I feel like when I see people who have to make big changes or face up to big mistakes, you see this inner battle within them or you see it in yourself and it's a back and forth, like I want to talk about this, I want to, I need to ask for help, or I need to go talk to the bishop, yada, yada. And when they finally make that decision, where they're like they throw like caution to the wind, essentially, and you can see in that moment there is nothing in their life motivating them except for Christ, and Christ is in there with them. And it is that strength that I wish all of us had more of, because I think that right there is. The greatest strength of all is to abandon all weakness, all hesitancy, all fear, and be like no, I'm finally doing this Christ way I really like. That is one of the uncommon strengths I love to see in those around me.
Speaker 2:That's a really powerful thing. I just haven't even considered that my own repentance could be a strength that I could develop.
Speaker 1:And it'd be an inspiration to others. Like I love testimonies in action. I think it's easy to get up and bear your testimony, but like to live your testimony through your actions. Man, that's powerful.
Speaker 2:I used to have a saying to myself live up to the testimony you bore last week, right, because it's like I would share my testimony. And then I would feel like such a failure sometimes, right, and then it's like so, live up to it. You know, it's like if you believe in the atonement you said you did, you got up in front of 100, 200, 300 people in church and told them that you have a testimony that Jesus is the Christ, that he came and suffered for you and that his atonement's real. Okay, now use it. Right, like if you really have that belief that you just bore testimony, to then make sure that you act on that, because I think it goes right along with what James says in his epistle. You know that faith without works is dead. Right, you can declare as much as you want, I mean.
Speaker 2:And Christ himself said many will come and say Lord, lord, have we not cast out devils in your name and done many great works in your name? And he says depart from me. I never knew you. It comes. It's more than just a declaration, right, it's our actions and the Hebraic thought. Declaration, right, it's our actions and the Hebraic thought, the way the Hebrews thought and their philosophy is you are what you do, right. You're not what you say, you are what you do, and so our actions define who we become and how we are identified. That's why we're called followers of Christ. We're not called speakers of Christ. We're called followers because we're supposed to take an action to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I listened to Elder Holland's talk yesterday as a little child from this last conference and I think what you just said, like we're followers of Christ, we're doers of Christ.
Speaker 2:We're not just, we're not speakers of Christ, doers of the word, not hearers only.
Speaker 1:And he said this. He quoted Elder Richelieu Evans and he said he quoted Elder Richelieu L Evans and he said Many of us profess to be Christians, yet we do not take him seriously. We respect him but we don't follow him. We quote his sayings but we don't live by them. We admire him but we don't worship him. And that one hit me hard, because there's definitely areas of my life where I'm like I profess Christ, I respect Christ, but man, do I follow him? Am I actually Christian? Profess christ? I respect christ man. Do I, do I follow him? Do I am I actually? Am I actually christian? You know, like um, or am I just a christian because I would like to think I am or I like to say I am?
Speaker 1:depends on what your definition of christian is fair enough, because you guys are really no, oh boy.
Speaker 2:I don't believe in Aristotle's God Hellenized into the Christian canon, whatever.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cut that part out. I'm just kidding, but no, I think I guess. Coming back to the beginning, I do think there's a lot of uncommon strengths, but a strength is only a strength because of our Savior, jesus Christ. If it wasn't given to us or used in his endeavors, what's the point of having it? You know Like, yeah, you can be outspoken, but will you be outspoken for Christ? You can be funny, but are you going to use that humor to connect with those of Christ? You know like you could be smart, but is that going to drive you toward Christ or away from Christ? And so I just think, without our faith and hope in Christ, there really isn't any strengths out there.
Speaker 2:Well. With that being said, lastly, before we go, I just want to make a quick tribute to my Uncle Tom. If you're listening up in Spirit Paradise or maybe you're busy doing the work right now I just want you to know that I am so grateful for your example of strength, not just physically but spiritually as well, being willing and humble enough to admit when you were wrong and to be humble enough to admit that you need your Savior every day. I'm so grateful for the testimony you left us with, and you left me with personally, and I know that, because of the resurrection, we'll all be reunited again someday. So, uncle Tom, this is a tribute to you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, love it. While little flock despair not, do good, build upon the rock and hear him Amen.