Hear Him Heal You
This podcast is for those who are looking to experience the Savior more in their lives because of the peace and healing that only He can offer through revelation. Come unto Christ to get out of the mental mire, find meaning in emotion, leave bad behind, and finally, be whole. This is where we hear Him to be healed.
Hear Him Heal You
Peace Amid Storms: Christ's Promise vs. The World's Lie
The concept of peace seems straightforward – until you really examine what it means. In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into the profound difference between the peace Christ offers and the peace the world promotes.
Many of us mistakenly believe peace comes from avoiding responsibility, eliminating stress, or creating perfect external circumstances. We chase after worldly peace through constant entertainment, substance use, or by minimizing commitments. Yet Christ offered a radically different understanding when He said, "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you, not as the world giveth."
The timing of this promise is striking – Jesus spoke these words just before heading to Gethsemane, facing betrayal, suffering and death. This wasn't a promise that everything would be easy; it was an assurance that divine peace persists even in life's darkest moments.
We explore practical ways to invite Christ's peace into our lives through the simple formula found in scripture: learn of Him, listen to His words, and walk in meekness. Rather than viewing commandments as restrictive rules, we discuss how they function as protective boundaries that safeguard our peace by keeping us connected to its true source.
Perhaps most powerfully, we examine how peace isn't just something we receive passively, but something we actively create by sharing it with others. By taking responsibility for others' well-being through service and testimony, we paradoxically find greater peace ourselves.
Whether you're struggling with anxiety, facing difficult decisions, or simply seeking deeper spiritual tranquility, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on finding peace not by escaping life's challenges, but by inviting Christ into them. Listen now to discover how His peace can transform your experience, even amid the storms.
Welcome to Hear Him, Heal you with Morgan and Joel. This podcast is for those that are imperfect, rough around the edges, but are still wanting to come unto Christ. Join us to get out of the mental mire, find meaning in emotion and leave bad behind. This is where we hear him to be healed, All right. Well, we are back at it, Joel. Yes, we are. How are you?
Speaker 2:feeling today A little tired. It was a long day of work. I'm a little exhausted, but it's good to be here, fair enough.
Speaker 1:I get that, I get that. So obviously one thing I want to talk about today is the idea of peace. The idea of peace. It's kind of funny because I've worked in high stress or high paced jobs, sales which if for anyone that's worked in sales they would probably agree with that where it's like very demanding, very stressful, I don't know if you feel that way about sales.
Speaker 2:Joel, it was actually the most peaceful time. I had the most clarity. Everything felt like it fell into my lap and went easy. It was super nice, I wish. Yeah, there's nothing ever wrong with it Fair enough.
Speaker 1:The reason why I want to talk about peace is sometimes, I think, we have a misunderstanding of what peace really is and the peace that God is trying to give us, and I think we see plenty of examples in other people's lives and in our own lives where we see people trying to look for peace right. So I guess, joel, before we get into any scriptures or anything like that, first off, what do you think is the peace the world wants to give us?
Speaker 2:I was thinking about that. I tried to think about it from a perspective back in that first century AD. And what would a peace in the world meant to them? And I think for them it was kind of this idea of not being in bondage, being free from the Romans, right, or, you know, not being at war and all these things. So it was a more political thing. It felt like, right, they were looking at it through the lens of nation warring against nation. They're occupied by Rome, right, yeah, and there's wars going on all the time of nation warring against nation. They're occupied by Rome, right.
Speaker 1:And there's wars going on all the time, and obviously you're talking about the time of the apostles right.
Speaker 2:That would be the first century AD.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I didn't hear that part. No, you're okay, but anyway. So I think it'd be really, and that's kind of the thing that the Jews were looking for at the time for a political Messiah who would save them from their enemies right, and who would bring freedom to them in a more physical, temporal sense. And what he was trying to share, I think personally. Instead, he was trying to share with them. I'm going to bring you a spiritual freedom. I'm going to free you from something far greater than any physical tribulation, and that's your sin and that's where you're going to find my peace.
Speaker 1:I also think we fall in that trap too, where we have an idea of peace that we want, but sometimes I don't think Heavenly Father and Christ get caught up in making us feel the way the world would say. Peace is like no political turmoil or no unsurety in the world, like I think. Sometimes we think like that's the peace we need. Is world peace right? Or being like stress-free is peace, yeah, and? And so sometimes I think like we're like why don't I feel peaceful?
Speaker 1:And then we forget like maybe that's not the peace god is trying to give me, right, and I think like kind of going off some of those worldly peace that we see, like I think one that I see that maybe this is the one that bothers me the most when people say is like the idea of having a lack of responsibility, like I just want to have an easy job, or I don't want to have kids or a family or or a wife or marriage, or because it just complicates my life, like it just creates too much work, it's too much of a hassle. That one always bothered me is when people like try to get rid of responsibilities because it just mucks up their life a little bit. You know, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I think that's such a common thing, especially in our demographic, whether that's going to school, trying to figure out your career, stuff like that. And people are really and I think it's because of social media, right, everyone sees the good side of everyone else's life Like man, their life looks so easy, so nice, so good. And sometimes these social media influencers they did basically have everything handed to them, right? They come from old money or something like that, or they married, or they're making money off of their social media right.
Speaker 2:They blew up from their influencing or whatever, but anyways. So we see that all the time we're like man. Their life looks so good and easy. Why can't mine look like that? And where some? Yeah, maybe they did just get lucky, but a lot of times people work to get to that point. I've met a lot of people who sacrificed many, many trips, days, hours and you know, missed out on going to games, parties and stuff like that to get ahead in life, to become successful, and so I think sometimes there's that illusion that everyone else has seems to be able to figure it out and why can't I have that too right now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent. I think like it's very easy to create your a state, a state of in peace, or is of emotional turmoil, that is self, self-inflicted, right, when in reality, your life isn't like terrible, it's just, it's just not what they have right. I also think like another type of peace that everyone's looking for is like the peace of like enjoyment, where they're like I always have to be constantly having fun, constantly like popular or with all the people or all these, this state of never ending fun, because if I'm not having fun, then is life really worth it, and I wouldn't even say that is a true peace either, you know.
Speaker 2:I think it's the same thing going along with when people leave the church and talking about. I've never been happier without all these rules and without all the things I had to do as a member of the church. You know all these things I had to commit to and all these facades I had to put up. But in reality you know the church doesn't say like, hey, do these things so you can be happy. It's do these things because they're right and they're the way to salvation. We're not a prosperity gospel.
Speaker 2:I know sometimes we get caught up because we are taught in our church to promise blessings right, but not every blessing means just happiness or having a fun time. Right, we do. Sometimes you do things because it's the right thing to do. I mean, I wake up every morning. I don't go to work every morning because I'm like, oh, I can't wait, I love going to work every morning. No, it's just the right thing to do. It's what you're supposed to do to. I'm like why do I need to have money? Because I need to pay rent. Why do I need to pay rent? So I don. We have to separate those things that we feel make us happy because they do Right.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day there's there's a higher purpose to what we're looking for and what we're doing 100%, and I think that's the key that we're going to get to and that I guess, when I've thought about this, is God is really concerned with what we learn and what we're doing, versus like what we have and I don't know.
Speaker 1:Like not just only what we have, but like he's not only concerned with just making us happy, right, because, like, he could definitely go out there and make us all happy, but if we were to leave this life, right, we could have not learned anything and wasted this whole time that we had on earth to become like him. And I think becoming like him requires an element of responsibility. I think it requires an element of sometimes being sad or burdened with things, right, I mean, just look at Christ like he had to take on all our burdens to bring about peace. Right, and so if we were to follow in Christ's footsteps not saying that we'll take on the amount that he does or suffer to his extent but if we are to walk like Christ and become Christ-like, it does require we take on a sense of responsibility and a sense of emotional burdens at times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's very interesting. That just reminded me of a line from my patriarchal blessing, and this was really odd to me when I first read it, but it was a part that said and this just came to me it said that your heart will know sorrow, like. Part of the blessing is that my heart would know sorrow and I was like what the heck, like why you know where's the happiness and joy and the greatness of the gospel, right and knowing sorrow. But because of the sorrow I've known, I think it's allowed me to see just how much joy there is to be offered on the other side of things. Right, it's hard to know one without the other, and so, even though the sorrows I've faced or felt have been hard, I'm really grateful for them because they've made me appreciate things in a greater sense and in a greater light.
Speaker 2:And, like you were saying, going back to us, learning to become like the Savior. How can we know what it's like to be, how can we become like him if we don't have an understanding of sorrow or sadness? Because if you don't feel that towards something or anything at all, you can't really feel love or connection. Sorrow is a sign of a connection there that is damaged or some of some way right, and so it's one of those things that grounds us in this life, and so I think sometimes we need to stop being so afraid to experience these things and be willing to take those on as part of our journey to becoming more like our Savior, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. I think, like sometimes we delay that moment right To accept what's in front of us and have to go through those experiences. And the reason I bring that up is because I think, like satan starts putting things in our path and like, um, and I think, our, just our world in general brings about like these different avenues for peace. And I think that's why, like, there's a lot of addictions out in the world because, like, people are experiencing these hard things and they're like I don't want to experience them, I want to escape them, so they can give into things that are very enticing, like like drugs, pornography, alcohol, like all the all these other things that can be very damaging, gambling that we have to, we use those to to numb them, so we don't have to feel the feelings. But sometimes, in order to grow, in order to experience things, we need those feelings, because those feelings create a sense of aloneness but also a sense of yearning for God, for a higher power to help save us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sometimes I don't like even myself, sometimes I don't allow myself to yearn for God and allow that to overtake my whole being and become what I'm about. And I do think there's other ones too, like there's so many distractions video games, social media, work Sometimes we want to just get out of town and go take a trip or get out in nature, right. Or there's always that idea that, like I'm going to go to the gym to fight my demons, right, maybe I can lift my problems away. Or I think there's even a sense of like we talk about like modern spirituality, which is like this intuitive stillness and meditation type of thing, which we're kind of giving up ourselves to some power, I would say, but not really accessing the power of Jesus Christ, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it really comes down to like are you willing to relinquish your will to God? Right, I think that's when I had the most peace in my life. That I could say was realizing that, hey, life's going to be stressful. Hey, you've made a ton of mistakes. You're going to have to face the consequence because of those mistakes you've made mistakes. You're going to have to face the consequence because of those mistakes you've made. Right, You're going to have to make some changes, work on yourself, and there's a lot ahead of you.
Speaker 2:Right, but I found peace. You know, at my lowest moments I found peace when I finally just came to terms that you know what You're. Right, I am in over my head, you know, I long as I know that I'm trying to serve you, father, right, Like I'm going to be okay and like there was a piece that just overcame me. Right, it was like in this moment I'm referring to a specific time in my life that I'm not giving a lot of details about, Right but there was a moment where I had this overwhelming peace come over me and just say like, okay, like you know, you are quite literally at rock bottom, Like the only place you can go is up, Right, and it was like and you know, come to me, I'm going to carry you along this and don't worry about anything else. Don't worry about what others say, think or do. Worry about what you say, think or do and how I think about that.
Speaker 2:And ever since then, like it has been a piece in like a lot of the decisions I've made and done and I'm so grateful for having that little conversation between me, my father in heaven and the Holy spirit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I do love the fact that, like, sometimes, the reason we don't have peace is because we have a guilty conscience. And, man dude, a guilty conscience is a heavy burden to bear to live with, because it's not just like a loud voice or it's like a nagging eating cancer that just is all consuming and makes you feel miserable. Right, and I think sometimes the only way to really find peace is to have Christ enter your life and excise the cancer, the pain, the wrong things in your life. However, I don't think we only find like if we always were just going about our life, repenting, removing the bad parts and continuing on. I don't think that is the complete picture of peace either, because as I was studying peace this week, I realized that peace and pursuing peace is actually an action we have to constantly be taking. And the reason I say that is because there's like words, like beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of those that publish or declare peace Right, or like good tidings, like when Christ came into the world, like it was, like there's like the Prince of Peace man I'm butchering all this, but there's lots of indications where there's actions taking with peace in order for it to be there, and I think one thing I realized is part of peace once we've experienced the peace that Christ can give us, we have to go about trying to give that to other people, and I think we find a peaceful life when we are trying to help others find peace as well, find a peaceful life when we are trying to help others find peace as well. And I think that's why, like, like it's such a temptation to be like I need zero responsibilities to be at peace, because then there's nothing required of me.
Speaker 1:However, I think what God's trying to do is give us responsibility because what he gave us, because we're going to, in turn, help spread or publish peace for others by sharing our testimony, by sharing our example, by helping others to see that Christ is really the ultimate sense of peace. And when we have those experiences, we continue to feel better and better about our lives. We feel closer to Christ. We, regardless of what's going on, for some reason, when we're out serving, we don't feel like there's actual problems. We feel like there's actual problems. We feel like there's there's actual solutions, right? I don't know if that makes sense of what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:No, it makes perfect sense. Whenever you're like working on something, your mind's focused Like I wasn't. I think we talked about it just last week, two weeks ago, about actively being involved in a good cause, right, like when you're actively doing something, your mind focuses on that. So when you're out serving like, you're focusing on why you're serving who you're serving. It's all about them. You get rid of that selfishness and replace it with selflessness and it really goes back to like what we learn in the Book of Mormon about serving your neighbor. You're serving God.
Speaker 2:When you do that, and I think that's a moment that God has the opportunity to show you the greater purpose of what you're doing is when you're serving others, right, he gets to show you that this is a. You are part of a bigger plan than yourself. You are an important part of it, trust me. Like you may seem small and minuscule, I mean you are important enough for Jesus Christ to come down and atone for right. But isn't it so great that we have the opportunity to now take that and share with others, to go help others in need. And when they ask why, you know, when people ask why, they're like, hey, why do you do this? Right. Why are you serving, why are you giving up this time? And I think it's a great time for us to say because he gave a lot more. You know, he gave a lot more, and so I think it's pretty easy for me to get this up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's funny because sometimes I feel like I overcomplicate, like how to find peace or how to bring about peace in my life. Sometimes I feel like I have to have so many days of reading my scriptures or so many days of praying, or the only time I can find peace is in the temple or at church. But I found this scripture in Dr Cummings 1923, and it hit me hard because I'm like God's peace that he wants to give us is so simple. We just overcomplicate it. And this is all he says. He says learn of me and listen to my words, walk in the meekness of my spirit and you shall have peace in me. And it's literally three steps.
Speaker 1:It's learn of me, listen to my words and when he usually talks about listening, he's really meaning hearken, which has an element of action right. Hearken to my words and then walk in the meekness of my spirit. And when I read that I was like man. I really got to get my priorities straight, because some days I'm not learning of Christ, and that doesn't only mean you have to be reading scriptures. I think there's plenty of ways to learn of Christ as well, but if we're never having an element of where we're learning, of Christ, coming to know Christ, becoming friends with Christ, making Christ our Savior, how do we expect to ever find peace right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a really good point. I think it kind of some thoughts that I had when you were talking was just thinking about you know one. You were saying, like I have to read my scriptures a certain amount of times before I can feel that, or maybe I have to go to church for enough weeks consecutively in a row. Right, I think about the patriarchs.
Speaker 2:Right, when we read about the patriarchs in the Old Testament, we don't read about them, you know, going and going to church and studying their scriptures. No, it's just the way they lived, right, christ was the way they lived. The Savior was their whole life. Right, everything they did was to try to glorify God and to make His work a more integral part of their life. So it was one of those things where they were very present and in the moment, with the Spirit. Right, it wasn't like they went somewhere all the time, unless it was like to offer a sacrifice or to go up to one of the high places.
Speaker 2:Right, you know, the patriarchs pretty much just lived their lives, but they knew that it was all given to God. Right, everything they did was for His work and His glory, and so I think sometimes we don't, we kind of forget that, like, hey, everything I do can be a part of worshiping God. Right, Living my day-to-day life can be part of his greater plan for me, for my family and for those around me. And so it's like if we learn to just kind of sanctify that part like our whole lives, suddenly we're able to act as peace more frequently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that was something I like. A question that in for me, is that like was is there more to peace than just prayer and scripture, church temple, yada, yada, right, and I think you did sum it up perfectly is there is more than just doing. The commandments are there to protect our peace, because when we stray outside of the commandments, whatever they may be, it does create complexities in our life and hardships. They're not there to I guess what should I say to create our peace. They're not the source of our peace, it's actually Christ. However, christ has given us those commandments because he knows it will protect our peace, because it keeps us close to him.
Speaker 1:And having that attitude towards commandments and going to church because I've never known someone to completely go off the deep end because they went to church they get lax in how they approach life and they may break a commandment and then it creates like a domino effect. Slowly and surely they start giving away that peace because they're not staying within the bounds that the Lord gave and luckily we're not going to be 100% perfect at that. Luckily we have Christ to intervene and remind us to repent and forgive us and help us restore those boundaries of peace. But I do think if we approach our lives with that perspective, it makes following the commandments easier and it adds a layer of motivation. But then, kind of like you said with Christ, if we go about always trying to thank Christ for the life he's given us and use the way we live our lives to worship him and follow him, I think that's really the ultimate source of peace. I guess?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just thinking because oftentimes we're accused in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints of trying to earn our salvation, earn peace, earn our way into heaven. And I love that when we take the point of view that, no, we're just trying to stay close to our Savior by living the way that he would want us to. And I think what's cool about earlier in the chapter that we referenced in John 14, he talks about like I'm the way, the truth and life. If you love me, keep my commandments. And he gives all those things before he promises peace because he's trying to teach them that, naturally, if you follow that order of loving God, of keeping His commandments, you're going to have peace. You know, doing ordinances isn't about earning anything. I think that's a ridiculous notion to suggest in the first place.
Speaker 2:But having a covenantal relationship being bound to somebody, right, I mean I would, just as I mean you could ask that person who accuses you of trying to earn your salvation or your peace, right, and say, okay, why should someone go from being a boyfriend and a girlfriend to being married? What's the difference? Why is it important to make that promise in covenantal relationship? What's the difference? Obviously, we know there's a difference, right, when you make that act of matrimony, you are bound to that person. You're making certain promises, vows and covenants. You're not just saying I love you anymore. You're showing your love for them in a deeper, symbolic way, and now you are bound together. And so it's the same with Christ, right, we are trying to be bound to him and we need to stick to our covenants. We need to stick to our promises, because that's where the peace is going to be found.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kind of going back to the marriage thing, I think another big reason why we need to get sealed is when we're just dating, there isn't actually an obligation for Christ to be a part of that relationship.
Speaker 1:However, when we get sealed and we make those covenants, christ has skin in the game for that marriage to work out.
Speaker 1:And I think we forget that sometimes, like we're not only marrying the person across from us, we're also bringing Christ into that marriage. And I think once again, as we kind of talked about peace, it's all about bringing Christ into every aspect of our life, not just our relationships and a marriage. But we're trying to bring Christ into our work life. We're trying to bring Christ into our home life. We're trying to bring Christ into all the types of wellness, whether it's physical wellness, mental wellness, financial wellness, like if Christ is always a part of every aspect of our life because he is the source of peace, those things, whether there's hardships in any of those areas, we can have peace through them because Christ is the part of the equation. Now and I think that's at least in my life when I feel like I have no peace, it's because either I'm ignoring God or I've just forgotten him to bring him into part of the equation, or I've pushed him away because of the choices I've made right, very true.
Speaker 2:I think something that's really important for us to remember is I love when you were talking about Christ has skin in the game. Now, with that relationship, god wants to see our success more than anything else. Right, he's given us a path for success and I think when we recognize that path and we listen to the words of the prophets and apostles, we follow their counsel right and we stick to the covenant path, you know, God is going to strengthen us in that as we strive to seek peace, as we strive to keep our covenants, he's going to strengthen us. So, if you feel like you don't have peace, or you've tried some, or like you're like, oh why isn't this working in my life?
Speaker 2:If you haven't been to the temple for one, go through the temple. Pray about that right. Pray about making a deeper connection with your Father in heaven. If you haven't been baptized yet, if you know, make that covenant. So, as you have a goal to draw closer to your Father in heaven, he is going to have more invested in you, right? He's going to be able to grant greater access to his power and his love to strengthen you, to grant you that peace. So, to anyone who's seeking that peace. Find more ways and new goals right to bind yourself even closer to your father in heaven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you ever find yourself like, or look back at other times where you're like man? It was right then when I knew I needed peace but I just didn't know I needed it. And sometimes I'm like I, sometimes I get so caught up in what's going on that I I don't recognize the need for savior to enter into my life and provide that peace. And I guess some of the indications that and maybe this is helpful for other people, maybe you can add to the list I've made Indications that I need to turn to Christ and seek peace is one I start to feel like life is a chore, like every action I have to take feels impossible, which usually means I need to make take some type of action in my life. I need to align more with God somehow. Another indication is I just feel exhausted all the time and I have.
Speaker 1:I'm sleeping plenty, I'm doing all the things right, drinking plenty of caffeine, you know, or I have like which is no caffeine by the way which is that, that, that right there, straight straight way to hell, but another one is I start to have cravings for social media, or to just like binge TV, or or to do things I'm not supposed to, or just like. These temptations seem to come out of seemingly nowhere, and or and. Then, on top of that, I have this desire to isolate. And as I've looked back on my life, as I've looked at all these indications, I'm like that was the time I should have turned to Christ. Like you could tell, like the devil was in the works. He was really trying to. He needed to wake up from his nap.
Speaker 1:But do you get what I'm saying? Are there any other indications that you feel like in?
Speaker 1:your life that you would add to that. No, I feel like we've kind of covered all of our bases there. Well, I do want to leave us with one story, and it actually comes. This is actually the source of this whole idea today of like what is peace? Like what is the type of peace God is trying to give us? I hope we answered some of those questions.
Speaker 1:But when I was thinking about this, the scripture that kept coming to mind is John 14, 27. And it said and Christ tells his apostles in this verse, and he says peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you, not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. And as I was reading this, I was like there has to be more to this and what is the context behind this scripture? And so, as I started looking at the scriptures prior to this and after this, this is kind of the context, like Christ is telling his apostles this right around the time of the last supper. It's actually towards the very end, because at the end of chapter 14 or John 14, he's like all right, let's get up, let's go, hence, let's go to the Garden of Gethsemane. Right, that is literally the last verse of John 14. Right before Christ is about to give peace to the whole world. Essentially is what he's doing by performing the atonement.
Speaker 1:But prior to him saying this, he has just watched all the apostles' feet. He has predicted that Judas was going to betray him. He told Peter like hey, you're going to deny me three times. And he's telling them. And he's predicting and prophesying about his crucifixion and death. And all the apostles are kind of freaking out at this moment. Right, they're like what are you talking about? Like where are you going? Like I followed you for the last three years and you're going to leave me, you're going to abandon me? Like why? Like there's no reason for you to do that. And as I look at this and I try to put myself in the apostles' shoes, I realize I see myself in this situation a lot. How many times has Christ metaphorically washed my feet? He has ministered to me, he has spoken love to me and why he loves me. But he's also corrected me as well and told me what I was going to do wrong and what I need to do better. But then there's times where it feels like Christ has left me and I'm just as confused and troubled like the disciples and I guess, not to be too long-winded, some of the things that I saw that Christ says kind of his advice. So I guess, if you're someone who's looking for advice on how to find peace or how to live peace in your life, these are some of the things Christ kind of told them. And I'm going to put in my own words One thing if you reach John 14, don't let your emotions get the better of you.
Speaker 1:Lean on God, believe in me, because that will anchor you and not allow your emotions to get the better of you. He also tells his disciples that he goes to prepare a mansion for them or a place. However, christ has already created that place. When he performed the atonement, he created a place for us to be able to enter into God's presence if we live his gospel. So that's another thing. And again and again throughout John 14, christ tells them yes, I may be leaving and I may be distant for a time, but I will always return, and I've experienced that in my life. If you are wondering if God has abandoned you or whatever, he is in the process of returning or he's waiting for you to return unto him.
Speaker 2:I just want to share something real quick. I thought of the story of Alma and his people, alma the elder, after they escaped and we know the story right, they escape and then they go straight back into bondage, right? And the Lord didn't take away their burdens, he didn't take away their struggles, he didn't, you know, free them immediately. Instead, he strengthened them within their struggle. So I know that the Lord gives us peace in our struggles, not when we've gotten out of them. Right During our struggle we can find peace, and that he will strengthen us. He strengthened me, I know he strengthened you and, because of the atonement of Jesus Christ, he can strengthen all of us, and that's my testimony. I leave with you guys.
Speaker 1:Perfect. I love it. Well, little Flock, remember despair, not build upon the rock, do good and always hear Him.