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Scared And Doing It

Morgan & Joel

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A skittish golden retriever, a humming tower fan, and a ball stuck just out of reach—sometimes that’s all it takes to expose how fear can paralyze us. We take that simple moment and trace it through the deeper terrain of faith: what it means to act before we feel brave, why God rarely “gets the ball” for us, and how courage grows not by erasing fear but by aligning our will with His.

We open up about the lies we tell ourselves when anxiety hits—“I’m not strong enough,” “this should be easier by now”—and replace them with a clearer path: adopt Christ’s pattern in Gethsemane, prepare like Esther with fasting and prayer, and remember like David who recalled the lion and the bear before facing Goliath. Along the way we unpack the difference between faith and hope—faith trusts that Christ is real and with us; hope trusts that His promises will be fulfilled—and show how to build a spiritual resume from small, steady experiences: answered prayers, quiet reassurances, sacramental renewal, and the witness of scripture.

As the world hums with rumors, commotion, and cold hearts, we hold fast to Christ’s assurance that His promises stand. If your heart has felt shaky, this conversation offers language, stories, and simple practices to help you move forward while afraid: name what God has done, keep tools that fit your soul, and take the next step even if your knees knock. Don’t keep circling the fan. Pick up the ball, build on the Rock, and keep going with Him.

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Welcome And Theme: Scared And Doing It

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Welcome to Hear Him Kill You with Morgan and Joel. This podcast is for those who are imperfect and rough around the edges, but are still wanting to come under Christ. Essentially, it's for everyone. So join us to get yourself out of the mental mire, find meaning in emotion, and leave that behind. This is where we hear him to be healed. Alright, welcome back to a new episode. I'm Lil Flock.

Biscuit, The Fan, And Finding Courage

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So today what we're going to talk about is Scared and Doing It. The way this kind of episode came to be was um I have a dog named Biscuit, which I've probably mentioned before. And boy, does Biscuit love playing fetch. Like, if I throw the ball once, or anybody throws the ball once, you're at least stuck there for another hour or so. And funny enough, he's a better fetcher inside the house than outside, mainly because he will get distracted so easy, like a classic dog, classic golden retriever, like kind of like Doug off of up, you know. So he's like squirrel, you know. And we were playing fetch one day, and I have a fan, like one of those uh tower fans, um, sitting in the corner of my of my living room, and I threw it over there and he got stuck behind it. And he is terrified of this fan. And so I'm watching him, and he would like look over to me. He's like, Are you gonna grab it? Are you gonna get it for me? And I'm like, no, not getting it, get it. And he would like get closer and closer, and then he'd run away because he'd be scared of the fan. And this went on for like 15 minutes. So like he would get super close, he would touch it with his paw or his nose and then run away because he thought the fan was gonna like either fall on him or or something. Um, he's just terrified. And this, like I said, this went on for a minute. And um, but the whole time I was just cheering him on. I was like, you can do it, buddy, you can do it, you got this. And the more I amped him up, the more he, the closer he would get to the ball. So finally he got enough courage with me just like cheering him on, yelling to him, that he finally went and got the ball behind the fan.

God’s Perspective On Our Fears

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And so I was sitting there and I realized, man, this is so dumb, biscuit. Like, it's just a fan. You're gonna be fine. It's not gonna hurt you, right? And then I realized, I'm like, man, I feel like God sometimes feels the same way with us. We have these things in our life that we're scared to do. And to him, he's probably like, this isn't gonna hurt you. It's gonna be okay. You just gotta get through it. But time after time after time, we run into these situations where we're terrified to go get the ball. And to us, it seems like the biggest, scariest thing in the world. But to Heavenly Father, he's probably like, This isn't a big deal. I got this. And I feel like God does the same thing with us. A lot of times, I feel like when we face these situations in our lives, we're asking God, like, hey, come get the ball, like Biscuit does. And but Heavenly Father's like, No, I can't get the ball for you. Like, that's not the point. If I got the ball for you, you would never learn anything. You would never develop courage, you would never develop like resiliency or grit in the face of hard things. And I was sitting there, I was like, man, how many times have there been things in my life that I'm just terrified of? Like starting a new job, going back to school for something, having hard conversations, going and saying I'm sorry, or repenting. And they seem like huge, big things in our lives. And we was like, I can't do this. I can't do this. Like, Heavenly Father, take this away. Come get the ball for me. And truly, I really feel like they're not big things. They might seem big to us, but every time I've gone through one of these experiences, I was like, after the afterwards, I'm like, oh, that wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. It was still hard. Don't get me wrong, but it just wasn't as hard as I thought. And so this caught me thinking, and there's a friend of mine, we kind of have this inside joke now, where when I talk to talk to them about a hard thing and I need to do something, they they always tell me, You're scared and doing it. And I think this is one of the best lessons to learn when it comes to to life, scared and doing it. Because I definitely think Heavenly Father is going to ask us to do a lot of hard things and we're gonna

Acting Despite Fear: Christ’s Example

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have we're gonna be scared, but we're still gonna have to do it. And so, how do we go from being paralyzed with fear, being paralyzed with fear to moving forward even when we're afraid? Because a lot of times I feel like if we if we're like righteous enough or strong enough or just enough in general, we feel like we shouldn't be afraid of anything. However, I don't feel like, at least in my experience, maybe there's some other people out there where I feel that pit in my stomach every time. And so I'm it makes me wonder is this is the scared feelings me mean we're weak? Because I sometimes I get down on myself because I feel nervous, I feel scared, and I'm like, I can't do this, I'm not good enough. Like, why does this always seem hard? And it's like, am I not learning? Am I not growing? Do I like what else do I have to learn so this doesn't happen anymore? And I just I guess I'm starting to learn that it's that's not our reality. Really, I think the lesson we're trying to learn is to act in spite of fear and being afraid. I think probably the best example is our Savior Jesus Christ. I don't think I think he like when he went into the Garden of Gethsemane and as he was going to the cross and everything like that, I think he was probably felt feelings of fear and being afraid. Because I think fear is a mortal experience. I think our brains are hardwired to help us survive, and we do know that Christ took upon himself a mortal body, and so he got to experience those those feelings of fear that seemed to pop up instantaneously out of nowhere. However, because of Christ's character and the strength of spirit that he had, he never let that overcome his spirit, and it never influenced his actions because he was afraid. And even Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane asked to have this um let this let this cup pass by, right? Yeah. Uh even Christ asked he was afraid. Um and we can kind of see that because uh even in the Garden of Gethsemane he was he it even says his soul was exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death. And he even wanted his apostles to accompany him to this point. Obviously they didn't follow him deeper into the garden, but he did take them with him. And I think he wanted that that comfort, that that companionship. And then even in his prayer, he even asked his father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me. But this is the part where his spirit overcomes the fear, his strength, his courage, in the face of all. And he said, Nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt. He even said, I will give up my will to do the will of the Father. And so I think this is something that we all kind of have to learn some days, is how do we let the Father's will swallow our own, right? I think weakness is letting fear stop you. Courage is being being nervous, but moving forward anyways. One of the best ones in realizing this,

Esther’s Resolve And Holy Courage

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and this is the story of Esther. So for those that don't know the story of Esther, this happened during the time when the people were in exile in Persia. And Esther was a Jewish orphan being raised by her cousin, Mordecai. And basically she's selected to be like the king's wife, essentially. However, during this time, a high-ranking official named Haman rises to power alongside the king, and he demands honor, and Mordecai, Esther's cousin, refuses to basically honor or bow down before Haman, and Haman becomes angry. And when he discovers that Mordecai is Jewish, Haman plots against him and all the Jews and secures a royal decree for their destruction. So in the face of this like impending doom, Mordecai urges Esther to act. He goes to her and asks her asks her if she would go before the king and plead for her people. And up until this point, Esther has kept her Jewish identity and origins a secret from the king under Mordecai's direction. And basically, Mordecai is like, What reason are you placed to be the queen next to the king for such a time like this to help your people? However, there's a catch. Anybody that goes into the king's court uninvited risks penalty of death. So Esther is faced with a dilemma. Does she let her people die, or does she risk her own life in hopes of saving her people? So she thinks this over and finally she agrees, and the night before, her and her handmaids fast and pray for strength. The very next day she goes in and approaches the king and he spares her. And the words she said before she went in are if I perish, I perish. That sounds a lot like if thou wilt or not my will be done, but thine. Just like if I perish I perish. I think this is something that we all need to learn. One, um, where does the strength of courage to overcome actually draw from? And as I was thinking about this, uh, where where do we develop that courage?

Building Faith And Hope In Christ

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Where do we where do we find that? I think it first has to rely on faith in Christ. Faith really is a trust in Christ as well. A belief that Christ is actually there. If we're gonna go through something hard, like if we if we didn't believe there was anything, any benefit to doing hard things, we would never do them. Essentially, when we do anything hard, we're acting in faith on Christ. Because there would be no consequence for taking action. So every time we do this, we're it's an act of faith. Going from there, there's also a hope in Christ, too. The way I love to explain the difference between faith and hope is faith is believing that Christ is actually real. Hope is believing in what Christ says he will do for us. We're trusting the promises to come. So they're kind of very similar, very closely related, but we act in faith and hope in Christ when we do hard things. The way that we develop that is over time I think all of us do little things that prove we that Christ is there, or Christ proves to us that he's there. It's when we pray and we feel better. It's when we repent and we feel the approval through the Spirit for that forgiveness. It is also when we read Scripture and the Spirit bears witness to us that Christ is real. It's when we sit in church and take the sacrament, hear testimony, and we gain a little by little the reassurance that there is a living God and that He loves us and wants to bless us. Over time these stack up. So when we are faced with a hard situation, maybe it's our own doing, maybe we have to repent and acknowledge some things, or we just have to take a step into the unknown. Because of all these little reassurances over time, it's like we can not only just step into the uh unknown, but we can step into the arms of Christ to support us. Because he time after time, he has reassured us that if we go through the hard things with him, he will be there to uphold

David, Goliath, And Spiritual Resumes

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us. And I think one of a great story um that illustrates this is um the story of David and Goliath. Um basically what was happening is the Israelites um and the Phil the Philistines are facing each other in battle. The Philistines present a warrior, Goliath, who's a giant, just one of their best fighters in their whole army. And he comes out each day before the battle and challenges someone from the Israelite army to fight him. If if the Israelites win or beat Goliath, then the battle's over. Um and for 40 days this went on. Goliath mocks Israel, and it says he defies their God as well. So he's mocking God. And David is the youngest son of Jesse, and he is the one who oversees the sheep uh for his father, and he's not a soldier. Um so essentially he's a shepherd, and he's asked by his father to bring food to his brothers on the battlefield. And while he's there, David hears Goliath taunt and sh um and is shocked that no one is standing up to him. David asks why the Philistines or why this Philistine is allowed to insult the living God. His brothers dismiss him, but David remains confident, and he tells King Saul that God helped him defeat a lion and a bear while protecting his sheep, and God will help him now. Saul offers David his armor. Obviously, it doesn't fit, and so he's like, No, I'm not gonna do this. And then David just takes his staff and his sling and picks up five smooth stones from the stream. And David goes out and presents himself to day or to Goliath, and obviously you can imagine Goliath mocks him for coming out without armor or weapons. And David responds that the battle belongs to the Lord, and that God will deliver Goliath into his hands. David runs towards Goliath, slings a stone, and strikes him in the forehead. And Goliath falls, and David uses Goliath's own sword to defeat him. And basically, this emboldens the the Israelite army, and the Philistines flee, and Israel is gains victory. And the thing that I I realized in this is I'm I'm really sure, like what's interesting is there's never any indication that David's afraid. And in Samuel 17 in the Bible. And the thing that really is interesting to me is I think maybe there is a way to dispel all fear, and it's to have such an assurance in God and have such a strength of testimony that we're willing to always give up our will to him. I don't think I'm at that point, I'll be honest. I think I still struggle

Last Days, Failing Hearts, And Assurance

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a lot of the time. However, I do think, kind of like uh David says here, he had a he had a spiritual resume of everything that God had done for him. He's like, I've defeated a lion, I've defeated a bear while protecting the sheep. And I just really, really believe that we have all built our own spiritual resumes. And we can look back through and be like, God has done this for me, and God has done this for me, and he's told me he loved me here and he forgave me for my sins here, and I entered this situation where I'd never thought I'd be able to overcome this challenge, and he helped me there. And over time we start building this spiritual resume that we can then go back and look at. And then when we're faced with a new one, we can see God has done this, this, and this for me. He will not let me down here. And I think we can all learn to look back on our spiritual resumes with God and have and be emboldened to face every every type of struggle we we are going through. And the reason why um I wanted to talk about afraid and doing it is there's a scripture from DNC 46 that has always just stuck in my mind. And I never this is like one of those scriptures where I'm like, I never want to be this. And it's talking about the last days, our time. Um, and it said, In that day shall be heard of wars and rumors of wars, and the whole earth shall be in commotion, and men's hearts shall fail them, and they shall say that Christ uh delayeth his coming until the end of the earth. Man, that one hits me hard. Like men's hearts shall fail them, and they say Christ will not come at all, or delayeth. Basically, they're doubting Christ can come to their deliverance. I never want to be found with a failed heart, a scared heart, an afraid heart, and I never want to doubt that Christ will delay his rescue for me. Sometimes I will falter in that, um, I've never been perfect, but I never want to be found in a permanent state of fear and of doubt of Christ. It goes on to say this, and the love of men shall wax cold, and iniquity shall abound. And then and then it cuts to this part, and it says, And I said unto them, Be not troubled, for when all things shall come aga come to pass, ye may know that the promises which I have made unto you shall be fulfilled. What a great promise, like be not troubled, and you shall know that all these things that I've told you um that I

Final Charge: Don’t Be Like Biscuit

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would deal for you, all the promises I've made, they will be fulfilled. There is no hesitation in Christ's words there. There's only permanence and strength and assurance. So I think what I want to say is don't be like biscuit. Biscuit's great though. Don't be afraid to go get the ball from behind the fan, essentially. Don't let your heart fail you, and don't doubt the coming of Christ in your life. And with that said, remember, little flock, despair not, build upon the rock, do good, and always hear him. We'll see ya.