Hear Him Heal You
This podcast is for those who are looking to experience the Savior more in their lives because of the peace and healing that only He can offer through revelation. Come unto Christ to get out of the mental mire, find meaning in emotion, leave bad behind, and finally, be whole. This is where we hear Him to be healed.
Hear Him Heal You
A Return To Christ, Authenticity, And Healing
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Ever felt like you were living two lives—the polished version everyone sees and the anxious, exhausted one you keep hidden? We sit down with Liv, an LDS creator whose journey from college drift to deep discipleship shows how honest effort, not perfection, opens the door to real healing. She shares the pivot that changed everything: reading the Book of Mormon cover to cover for peace rather than debate, then stacking daily habits—short prayers, audio scripture on migraine days, institute and long drives to the temple—until clarity and courage returned.
We get specific about the costs of spiritual drift, mapping how shame silences prayer, how the body mirrors the spirit, and why the first step back is often the smallest: show up weak. Liv talks about aligning her online and offline selves, posting the valleys as well as the peaks, and discovering that authenticity creates community. That honesty spills into our stories from LDS Addiction Recovery, where a simple invitation—assume the sale—sparked confessions, friendships, and a sacrament meeting filled with living testimonies. The takeaway is practical and hopeful: vulnerability is a spiritual skill; consistency beats intensity; and asking for help is how light gets in.
If you’ve felt far from God, anxious about worthiness, or tired of hiding, this conversation offers tools you can use today: five-minute scripture study, a text asking for prayer, a quiet drive to the temple, or a candid post that tells the whole truth. Subscribe for more grounded faith conversations, share this episode with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review to help others find their way back to Christ alongside us.
Welcome Back And Why Liv’s Here
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Hear Him Kill You with Morgan and Joel. This podcast is for those who are imperfect and rough around the edges, but are still wanting to come under Christ. Essentially, it's for everyone. So join us to get yourself out of the mental mire, find meaning and emotion, and leave that behind. This is where we hear him to be healed.
SPEAKER_02Welcome back, Flock. Uh, today is a great day. Finally, as you can, or you're about to hear, maybe see, I'm not sure. But we we have Morgan back in the studio with me at the same time, right? We're back together, we're on talking terms again. You know, we've we had our little break together, but now we're back, and we have brought in a third party to help us through this therapy. Um and I'm gonna actually turn some time over to Liv to introduce herself.
Liv’s Story And Creative Mission
SPEAKER_02Liv, tell the people who you are, where they can find your work, and what you're doing here today.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I am an LDS creator. I have been making content for about eight years now. My handle is at inspire.w.olivia on TikTok and Instagram. I typically post about my relationship with Jesus Christ, what it's been coming back to the church. I never really left, but I didn't, you know, have that much of a good handle on my relationship with God, and I wasn't as active in things. And so I like to be as transparent as possible with what that transition was like. And I also really like to focus on mental health um and what that kind of looks like alongside with the gospel, how you can use those two things as tools to help get you through the hard times.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Right on. Thanks, Liz. Thanks for coming to our uh couples therapy session today.
SPEAKER_02I know, right? So, for any of those who are curious, the reason that I felt really inspired to reach out the live was because I realized we have a very male-dominated audience and that we've only had dudes on, but that there are so many faithful Latter-day Saint women out there who are putting in the work, and that I think it was just right that we collab with them and be able to get a different perspective. Okay. I feel like we're a little bit of an echo chamber. All the guys, all the boys are hyping up all the posts. We love it, but we also want to minister to all of God's children. So I saw Olivia's content uh probably a few weeks ago and noticed I was like, wow, she seems to have a really good vibe and just have this happy demeanor about her. And I can tell that she's experienced some hard things but had a great change and understands what it's like to feel the love of Christ and feel it draw her back into the gospel. So that's why I was super excited to bring her on. And let's let's kind of get into that. I mean, Liv, you kind of started out sharing a little bit briefly that you struggle with some inactivity, but how vulnerability and all these things have led to having a deeper relationship with your savior. I mean, do you want to expand or expound a little bit on that?
Drifting From Church In College
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, so in college, I am a senior now, so about like freshman year, sophomore year, I experience what a lot of college students experience where you go and it's like the first time where you're fully in charge of yourself. And so going to church finally became a choice. And that is kind of where I was going to see is this something that I really want to do? Is this something that's a priority to me? What's that gonna look like? I didn't have a car, so going to church was something that I had to like coordinate. I had to do an Uber, which meant it cost money, like whole thing. And I was good about it in the beginning. And as time went on, I started to just do literally anything else but go to church. I was out partying, I was with my friends, I was like learning about like sorority life, things like that. I was not at all focused on the gospel. And I noticed an increase in my depression and anxiety. And for some reason, I didn't see those two correlating at the time. I kind of just was like, oh yeah, life just sucks. And so I would keep doing those other things that I thought was, you know, helping me instead of going back to church. And I would say about this last year, the last two years, I have been able to spend a lot more time with my family. They're all very, you know, focused on Christ and they love the gospel um so much. My family's the kind of family that like everyone has a calling, all times, always doing something, volunteering for something, missionaries over like once or twice a week. Like that's my family. Um, so coming back here is always like a good mental reset.
Scripture Study And A Turning Point
SPEAKER_00Um, but this summer, I would say like the best shift for me was I was able to read the Book of Mormon again, cover to cover. And the last time I'd done that, maybe was when I was 14 for personal pro So I was reminded by a friend that that is something that you're supposed to do. And I was kind of confused because I was always under the impression that you read the Book of Mormon. If you had a question about the gospel, if you didn't understand, if you didn't agree. And thankfully, I have been blessed with the spiritual gift of I fully rock with everything. I don't see any any issues actually at all. So I was like, I don't understand why I have to read this. I agree with everything, never had a problem. And my friend was like, no, Liv, like it's gonna help you, it's gonna bring you clarity, it's gonna bring you peace. And you're gonna feel so much better after reading it. And I was like, okay, dude, like whatever, I'll read it, I guess. And I actually don't even know how to explain that transformation, like exponential growth, exponential increase in my happiness, my activity in church, all-time high. I go to every single activity, I go to institute twice a week. And my church is an hour, hour and a half from where I live. So it's a commitment for me to go to these things. But I was also at this time experiencing some insane like health hardships as well. And going through health issues, also like when you're in college, sucks. Cause for me, I can't just like go home. My family lives on another continent. So I've been like going in and out of the hospital, being sick. That, you know, messes up your mental health. You're discouraged. Quite literally, I don't think I would have been able to get through it without like Jesus Christ. Like I made sure every single day I did some sort of scripture study morning and night, whatever that looks like for me. Sometimes I have chronic migraines. So sometimes scripture studies, me playing it out loud, listening for as long as I can take, turning it off, saying a prayer, and going to sleep. And sometimes for me, if I'm really in it, if I'm really in it, a good scripture study for me is about an hour and a half, two hours. Like I love scripture study. And I think that was something that was like a pivotal shift for me. I was able to put a lot of time into things that I realized were bringing me a lot more joy and happiness. And they all happen to kind of be gospel related. Hence me, you know, I also posted a lot more. But yeah, it
Health Struggles And Daily Practices
SPEAKER_00was just really cool. I like being a lot more active in my YSA and just being able to do those service opportunities. And and I went to the temple a couple weeks ago, and that was I drove an hour to church to drive four hours to the temple to spend an hour and a half there to drive four hours back to drive an hour back to my house. So I was like going all over the map. But it was a great time. You know what I did on my drive there, my four-hour drive there? I read my scriptures. And I just, first of all, it has to be record for me. Four hours is crazy. Second of all, never better. Like, I I had been so sick the weeks leading up to that, and I had no health issues on that Saturday. And I was like, yes, like I just know, I have never been so confident of the fact that, like, if you are doing what Christ wants you to be doing, like life is gonna be so good. And even if things are hard, circling back to the gospel. And you know how many times I've read my scriptures while actively sobbing? A lot. And you know what? At the end of it, I always feel a lot better. And so that's something that I'm just like very passionate about. That like Christ has been just saving grace for getting through the last couple months, honestly, all of the year, but especially the last couple months, I was able to see that shift where like things are just so much better.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No, I I think the thing that stands out about your story is like how like when we're not doing what we're supposed to, we we like to think, and I've seen this in my own life when I have not been doing what I'm supposed to. We like to think that like sin doesn't affect us, like like I'm not I don't feel guilty about it, or I'm like, I'm I'm having a great time, like this is all good, and everything like that. But it's not until we like get to that point, kind of like the prodigal son, where we're like eating with the pigs, you know, and we're just like, actually, this kind of sucks. Yeah. And you it kind of
The Physical Cost Of Spiritual Drift
SPEAKER_01like he says in the scriptures, like he turned to himself, like that moment where you're like, I don't want to be doing this anymore. And that's when we like get up and then we like crawl our way home uh back to Christ. And and as we like fall into Christ's arms, it's like, oh, why did I ever leave this? You know? Like, I feel on top of the world, I feel the happiest I've ever been. And you're just like, everything is so much better. And I think we underestimate the not even this, the spiritual effects of sin, but we underestimate the emotional and physical effects as well in our lives. Like, like when our spirits not well, our body's not well either. So I've experienced that a lot. So yeah, totally get that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I I can definitely relate. I look back to like when I first when I first got sent home from my mission, I was genuinely trying to do what was right and get back into like uh, you know, full activity and be doing what I was supposed to. Um, and like if you look at those pictures, then like I look great. I'm not gonna lie, like I look a lot better than what I did right now. But you know, I was looking back and I was like, gosh, man, I was like, I was like, my skin looked clearer, I was like, my face just looked brighter, I just felt better. And then you can see as soon as like I started to like just kind of give up and feel that hopelessness of like feeling like I couldn't move past my past, right? That drug me down, and I just fell it back into these temptations and fell into new temptations I'd never struggled with before. And you can I could definitely see, and I think Morgan, who is kind of here for a lot of that, these ups and downs of like wanting to try to get better, then going back down a back. Uh it was a lot of this. Now we're now we're up like this, right? We're going a lot better now. But for a long time, you can ask Morgan, and like you would see me just take these, it was a lot of like peaks and valleys, and you know, but it wasn't I wasn't ever really going anywhere with it, you know. I felt like I was just kind of staying flat, which really you're not going flat, you're going down. And I look at the difference of even just how, you know, just it through pictures, I guess, right? As I'm looking through these timelines, I see a different person, I see
Authenticity Online And Off
SPEAKER_02the change. And I see now, you know, even though I've done a lot of damage to my body, that I see that I'm happier now, I see that brightness again, I see that it's like, wow, I feel that I can see that there's a certain level of peace in my eyes now when I'm in with my family and doing things. And so I think it is true that we don't realize just how much physical damage we do to our bodies when we do not keep the commandments and how much spiritual, mental, and emotional damage as well. And I've experienced that. I mean, I've I've had a lot of pain, a lot of pain and suffering because I didn't keep the commandments, the major commandments, right? The big ones, okay? The ones you got asked in your temple recommend, right? And it's like because I didn't do that, I caused myself a ton of pain. And that is one thing that I have a lot of remorse for because I know I also cause pain for others. But I also know that being vulnerable, being open, and be and just making those changes truly can heal us, and that your mental health and your physical health can all improve if you are just doing what you're supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. 100%. And and I guess uh Liv, what role did like, because we wanted to talk about authenticity and vulnerability, what role did that play in kind of that transformation from like the party lifestyle to like back to Christ active every institute twice a week, like every church act. Like, what role does that play in that realm for you?
SPEAKER_00So I realized that for me, I I try to keep my online persona and my in-person persona the exact same. I try not to have any gap between that. I mean, I would hope that my online persona maybe comes off a little bit more polished, but other than that, it's not supposed to be anything like meticulously different. I'm not like putting effort into being a different person, which I know a lot of people do. And that's fine. I just that's a lot of energy that I don't have. That said, I realized during that time,
Hiding From God And Coming Clean
SPEAKER_00and it's actually a little bit of a blessing that my old account got deleted because you just can't see what I'm talking about anymore. You have to take my word for it. But if you go back and you look, I was essentially lying to everyone and saying that I never really said like life was great, all things are good. But whenever I hit like a peak, so to speak, I would post. I would say, God is so good, life is so good, things have been rough, here's how. But like, if you turn back to Christ, everything's okay. And then I plummet off the face of the earth for like six months, not really post or like post, like, like repost other people's content, go on Pinterest, download an infographic, put that up in my page, you know, that kind of thing. And that didn't really feel like real to me when I first started posting. I would literally post like novels. I would like write out like journal entries basically in my captions. And like that's what really clicked with people. With videos becoming a thing, that's been really cool because I've been able to, I guess, practice like what it's like to, you know, talk to a camera and get get my actual voice out there. So when I kind of hit this, I don't even know if it's like fair to call it rock bottom, because I think I've hit like a hundred million rock bottoms. But what I decided was like, okay, like I can't do this anymore, actually. Like I'm exhausted. I can't.
SPEAKER_01You're like rock bottom's where I live.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say it's like you hit you think you hit rock bottom, turns out it's a false floor and you fall right through again and you just keep going.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm actually very comfortable with that. I'm very comfortable with uncomfortability and failure. It's yeah. Um but I think what happened was A, I realized the reason I don't want to go back to church or the reason I don't want to be posting is because I feel guilty because I put up this front and I I like you said, I would like to help like hope that I come off like positive and helping other people is like my thing, but I wasn't feeling that.
Show Up Weak Or Strong
SPEAKER_00And so I felt guilty because I I was lying not only to my audience, I was lying to myself and I was lying to God. I was, and that's stupid because God knows everything and God knew what I was doing, but I was like, no, like the word of wisdom, like it's so chill. Like I still believe in God, so like it's whatever, you know? And I would legitimately be like, yeah, checks out and like move on with my day. Like, that's the kind of life I was living. Okay. It wasn't great. I like to laugh because I think it's funny, but yeah, you know, it can be a serious topic for some other people. Um, and it probably shouldn't be for me too, but it's what I got something I gotta say.
SPEAKER_02I just had this mental image pop in my head as you're talking about lying to God. It's like when a little kid is caught eating, you know, Oreos or something by their parents when they're before their dinner, right? And there's crumbs all over their face, their clothes, and it's like, Did you get into the Oreos? And this two-year-old looks you dead in the face and says, No. And you're like, I know you did it. Why are you lying to me? He's like, I can see the Oreo in your hand, dude. You know, you're still chewing, and that's how I feel. Like, whenever we catch ourselves lying to God, like, I'm good, like, I believe, I trust in you, you know? And it's like, I have got Oreo all over my face right now.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, no, I completely feel that exact same way. It was kind of like I was like, I feel stupid. Like, there's no point in doing that because he can see the Oreo crumbs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like one thing I I want to say is like it is so true. Like, how often do we like when we're not doing what we're supposed to, we're way more hesitant to go to God in prayer or like even do scripture study, let alone just like posting about our life on online. It's like we're not even willing to post a prayer to God in those moments. And I think that is a big
Pride, False Floors, And Surrender
SPEAKER_01thing um that that I struggle with too. Is like when I know I'm not like doing what I'm supposed to, the first thing to go is like, all right, I I'm going radio silently with God too. And it's funny because I think that's where the key, like vulnerability is so important, especially in spiritual struggles or like coming to Christ, is like the time we need to show up is when we are in the struggle. Like, there's nothing better for us to be doing like if we are like not doing what we're supposed to, but it's still showing up and trying to have a relationship with Christ. Because if we cut ourselves off completely because we're too afraid, too insecure to go to them in prayer or in scripture study or even show up to church, that's where like that help is cut off. We're cutting ourselves off from it. So, and I that's a hard thing. Like a lot of people just like they're like, Oh, I can't take the sacrament because I haven't been doing what I'm doing, or I can't, I just don't feel like I'm worthy enough to to show up for people in the li or even to Christ. And I think like that's a definitely an like a tactic of the adversary, right? Like and that's a that's like a a muscle I've had to really work on is like even when I struggle, I I'm showing up. Doesn't matter if I feel unworthy or unloved or weak. I need to show up on my strong days and on my weak days, no matter what. And I think that's the key to discipleship and like moving forward is is practicing that vulnerability muscle, even with our relationship with Christ and Heavenly Father.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I completely agree with that. And I would like to, I think for me too, with that came an increase in self-image and self-worth. I think that's been something I've struggled with my entire life. Um and I think realizing that like God wants to see you in no matter what state you are. Like, I don't know if you've seen this image, but it's really popular on social media. It's a picture of Jesus Christ sitting at a dinner table and he's by himself because you didn't show up to dinner to like talk to him. And I've seen that image a couple of times, and it is just that's how I feel
Vulnerability Builds Real Community
SPEAKER_00now. Like I see that picture when I'm not doing my scripture study, I'm not doing my prayers and things like that. I think the the quote, you know, the Lord loves effort is something that I've really learned this last year of like 10 seconds, two hours, like whatever you know, he can get like that's what he wants is for you to be putting in that time. And he can see, you know, he knows your intentions and he he knows your heart. And so it's whatever you can put in is like the best. And that is something that I want other people to be under like able to understand, and that's why I try to post about it so that that shift going from me lying to myself and pretty much everyone actually, because I was actively living two different lives, and it was it is a lot. I was very exhausted all the time.
SPEAKER_02You wonder why you're so tired. It's like you have two different lives going on at once, and one life is stressful as it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so being able to just like fully shift and decide like I'm fully submitting myself to Christ, like this is something that I want to do. Not even for myself, honestly. It was it was more for like for God. I was like, this isn't something that's for me, it's it's for um it's for Heavenly Father because He literally wants He wants us all to come back home. And I think that's the only thing for me is I I think the reason why this is a hypothesis, why God likes to send me to rock bottom quite often is I think I'm a lot more prideful than I'd like to admit. And I think that when things are getting good, I'm like, yeah, life is like life is great. And I kind of just like completely forget where I came from. I'm not doing my scripture study, whatever. And God's like, Yeah, that's so funny. Actually, you thought, and then I fell back off the face of the earth, and it's like, guess. Where I'm back at. I'm like, hey God, it's me. This is so awkward.
SPEAKER_02It's like, I swear, how many times are we going to rebound text our father in heaven, right? Like, how many times are we going to hit him with the rebound text? Like, hey, everything sucks again. I miss you. Yeah. Take this away from me. I'll never do it again. I know it's like, uh, I know I said last time that I wouldn't do it, but this is the real time that I'm I'm not going to do it again. Well, as you were talking, I had another kind of thing come into my head about like how you said, like, you this time you felt like you were doing it for God, you know, not just for yourself, but for your father in heaven. And what I think is important is a lot of times we get caught. The reason we get caught in these double life is because we know what we're supposed to be doing. And we know a lot of people who also know that we know what we're supposed to be doing. And so what's our first instinct? It's to hide, it's to cover ourselves, right? It's it's the story from the garden. I think it's so prevalent. Everything goes back to the garden for me, but it's like we try to hide and cover it up ourselves, right? We do a really crappy
Addiction Recovery And Testimony
SPEAKER_02job. And I think that's what happened for me too. It's like, man, like everyone knows that I know what I'm supposed to be doing. Everyone knows I've read the Book of Mormon several times. Everyone knows Joel knows the scriptures, and everyone knows that I actually do believe in God and believe this is true. And so even though I wasn't living it, I still believed that it was true, but I was embarrassed that I wasn't living it because of that reason, right? And I think we're so it's so easy to fall into that temptation to want to put up a facade for people to see and be like, hey, I'm actually still doing good, guys. I don't want to let you guys down, but inside you're like dying. Whereas if you were just authentic and say, guys, I'm really struggling right now, you know, like I am really just not in an okay place. There's so many more people who are just waiting to help you and pray for you and support you in that moment than are to tear you down or to shame you or to make you feel bad for falling again, right? Because everyone has fallen, you know, everyone has made mistakes and has been in that place before. And so I think it's real easy in our heads to be like, oh, they would, you know, they're they're gonna judge me, right? They're gonna be frustrated or annoyed with me, or or you know, they're gonna be disappointed in me. But in reality, people I think actually do want to help because it makes us feel good when we help and are supportive of others. And so I think deep down, if we have more vulnerability with our struggles, instead of putting up that, you know, those two faces, the one for your party friends and the ones for the people who know what you know. You know, I think if we were just more honest and we're able to say, hey, I have really struggled with this and I need some help, guys. I need some prayers. You know, I've been struggling with falling. You don't have to, I don't think everyone has to go ahead and open up their whole life story, but you know, open up a little bit more and just say, guys, I've I've really I've fallen recently and struggled and I need some help. I need support of my brothers and sisters. And I think we would find that support far more often than we would find the embarrassment we expect to find.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, uh one thing that this is a great example of it. So, like I have referenced before, Joel and I became friends through doing an addiction recovery class together in one of the wards where I was in um where I had started it. And the addiction recovery class started out small. There's like three of us, four of us that that were attending. But over time it grew with to about like 15 um in our ward. Um large part because
Invite First, Stigma Falls Away
SPEAKER_01Joel was vulnerable and authentic. He would just talk to people, be like, You gonna come? Like Joel's great at that. Um and he just knows how to get on people's level and get them to open up and acknowledge, like, hey, we need to talk about this.
SPEAKER_02And so you just have to assume the sale. Me and Morgan have both been in sales before. So it's like I would just like go up to guys I'd meet. I would do this. Like, I I'd never met these guys before, and I would start talking to them at church, and then I'd talk to them. I'd see them later at like or I'd see them at like FHE or something. That's usually where you find people who you can kind of find who are struggling and looking for help. You know, first they come to FHE because it's more comfortable, right, than going to church. And I would find guys I hadn't seen at church before and talk to them, and I would just assume I'd like, hey man, you want to come to addiction recovery with me on uh Sunday? And they're like, What? And they're like, I was like, Yeah, you know, guys who struggle with, you know, lust or pornography or anything like that. I was like, or alcohol, we have anything. I don't know. If you're addicted, man, we got you. And so they're like, What? And I'm just like, yeah, man. I was like, I go every week and it's like my buddy Morgan is the, you know, he's he hosts it for us, kind of. He's kind of the ringleader here. But I was like, it's really great, you know, we get to talk about the atonement and talk about how it helps change our lives to be better men. I like nine out of ten times, they would then open up to me about addictions that they struggled with. And I think so many people do, and they just suffer in silence because they just don't know that they're not alone. I think it's so important that we be vulnerable like that. Because it just provides, you know, it provides opportunities. And like I said, I mean just assume, just assume that hey, like you're probably struggling, dude, because everyone struggles. And, you know, nine times out of ten, they are, and now they don't feel so alone. Now they don't have to be hiding, they don't have to feel the fear and anxiety of of living that double life, they don't have to feel the depression of fear or or the the despair of fighting this all on your own, right? Now you've just brought a little bit of light into their life, so that's why I think it was so important for me to just feel confident being vulnerable with myself. Yeah, like, hey, my name's Joel. Uh, you want to come to addiction recovery with me? It wasn't that blunt, but pretty much, you know, within five minutes of meeting some of these guys, and almost all of them, like I said, were just happy or just like seemed like pleasantly surprised that someone was willing to talk about it. And I mean I met made great friends because of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I think I we didn't understand the impact we were having until we had a fast
You’re Not Alone: Practical Support
SPEAKER_01and testimony meeting one Sunday. And literally the whole sacrament meeting was every single guy from this addiction recovery class. No one else got up and bore their testimony. It was just one after another. And it made me realize that when we are living an authentic and vulnerable life, we bring Christ much closer into our lives. We fill him a lot more to the point where like we can still be struggling, but we can also still be progressing in the gospel. And it was just amazing to me to sit there and listen to testimony after testimony of these guys bearing their testimony about Christ. And I'm like, this is the key. This is the key for us to come closer together as a church, as a ward, as friends, is the authenticity and vulnerability. And it I just think like we need we do need more of it. So I think, Liv, you're on the right track with what you're trying to do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is definitely something that like like you guys were saying, super important. And most people do have that mindset of they're by themselves and whatever they're struggling with. And that is literally never the case. So that is my goal. Make sure people know you're not alone. My my bishop's wife, I love her tagline. She always tells us, like, if you're struggling with something, like I probably have done it and I probably did it again. So, like, you should come to me and talk about it. And I'm like, you know, I'm actually kind of feeling that too. Like, maybe not like everything, everything. I am only 21, but I definitely have experienced a lot of different variety, if you will, of different things. And so I think that's also why people feel comfortable. I try to post about whatever I think will bring people closer, but also be honest and say, hey, like this was a really bad week. Like, anyone have any suggestions on like what I should study on the topic of grace? Because I'm really like sucking at that concept this week. And like you guys were saying, people love to help and they will they will leave you scriptures, or sometimes people will comment things or people will text at me, like, hey, I like I I just prayed for you. And it's like it's a really cute thing, like it's a it's a nice community that I'm able to build. And so it is something that I think is super important since it's not something that I personally experienced a lot like growing up. So I like to try to make sure that I can help other people, especially like young adults, because it's hard, it's hard, and a lot of us are by ourselves, and I get it. I really get it.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, yeah, so true. Well, we'll we'll we'll sh send some love your way, Liv, as well. So that way it's not you just sending it out.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01Awesome.
Closing Encouragements
SPEAKER_01Well, this has been a pleasure um talking. I've really have loved diving into this this topic. Definitely um want to cover more of this uh in a future episode as well. But um with that said, Lil Flock. Remember, despair not, build upon the rock, do good, and always hear him. See you guys.